WHY IS JOE MANCHIN RUNNING YOUR CHILDREN OUT OF STATE?

By Hippie Killer

It’s time to take a hard look at the real Joe Manchin, West Virginia. If you’re a parent or grandparent — and if you’re worried that your kids or grandkids won’t be able to find work in West Virginia — you won’t like what you see.

Joe Manchin’s bullies on the WVU Board of Governors are telling honest West Virginia teenagers they’re not welcome in their own home state — BECAUSE THE KIDS TOLD THE TRUTH.

In case you don’t know, Joe Manchin appoints and controls the WVU Board of Governors. And you’ve probably heard about the Manchin master’s degree scandal. Joe Manchin’s daughter makes $3 million a year working for an out-of-state drug company. Not long ago, a newspaper found out she’s been lying for 10 years about having a master’s degree. But Joe Manchin’s buddy Mike Garrison — Joe Manchin’s handpicked president of WVU — covered it up.

That’s right. They faked a master’s degree for Joe Manchin’s daughter. Independent investigators found out that they’d made up grades OUT OF THIN AIR to give Joe Manchin’s daughter a degree she never earned. And Joe Manchin’s daughter kept her $3 million a year, out of state job.

Then, believe it or not, the Manchin master’s degree scandal got even uglier. Some honest WVU students felt duty-bound to speak out against the dishonest things Manchin’s men were doing. And what thanks did they get?

Here’s what: Joe Manchin’s handpicked, grown-up bullies on the Board of Governors are telling those teenage kids to GET THE HELL OUT OF WEST VIRGINIA, FOREVER. They’re threatening these kids that they’ll never be able to work in West Virginia. Because those brave, honest students dared to speak truth to Joe Manchin’s absolutely corrupt power.

I can’t even begin to put into words how disgusting that is.

Joe Manchin’s thugs on the Board of Governors are a bunch of fifty-something crooks. They’re multimillionaires. They live in houses in South Hills and on Cheat Lake — huge houses like you and I will never set foot inside of.

Now think back to when you were 19 years old. You might have kids or grandkids around that age. At nineteen, you’re nothing but fragile dreams and paralyzing fears. Dreams of making a decent life for yourself in the place where you were born. West Virginia, for most of us. And fears that something will go wrong. That you’re not up to the task. That you don’t know the right people, or how to do what you need to do to succeed.

Now imagine — and this is no stretch for those of us not named Manchin or Goodwin or Garrison — that your parents raised you to do the right thing. To value honesty and integrity above all else. To take a stand when you see a crook doing something wrong. So when you find out your school gave a FAKE master’s degree to the daughter of the most powerful man in West Virginia — just because she’s a politically-connected multimillionaire — you speak up. You say it’s wrong and demand that the men responsible be held accountable.

Then a few days later, some slick-faced, fifty-year-old millionaire thug like Steve Goodwin or Parry Petroplus sends you a message. “Your dreams are dead, son.” Pack your bags and move on. You can’t stay in West Virginia. Joe Manchin’s men will make sure you NEVER find work here. So get the hell out and don’t come back.

You’re nineteen years old. One of the richest, most powerful men in West Virginia has just kicked you out of the state where generations of your family have lived and died. The state where, in all likelihood, your dad and granddad left to go to war and came back to raise a family. The state where you dreamed of raising your own kids, just like they did.

You know that the rich man can do what exactly he says he can. Because he’s a Manchin Man, and the Manchin Men own West Virginia. To the Manchins and the Goodwins, the generations worth of sweat and blood that your family’s poured into this soil don’t mean a damn thing. They’ll grind you under their heel just as casually as they take a piss. They’ve done it before. And so you have to leave home, just because you did the right thing. Because Joe Manchin’s men said you’re not welcome here any more—not if you speak up and say Joe Manchin’s daughter should have to earn her degree just like everyone else.

This isn’t fiction, Mom and Dad. This is dead-serious reality. This is the Real Joe Manchin. This is the Governor you voted for. Politico Joe thinks you’re just one more dumb hick. He tells you he wants to keep your kids here at home because he knows that’s what you want to hear. But the real Joe Manchin — his millionaire bully boys tell your kids to get the hell out of West Virginia the second they’re honest enough to call things like they see them. Because that’s the one sin that Joe Manchin can’t forgive: HONESTY.

Folks, this is your state just as much as it is Joe Manchin’s. So answer me this: what right do Joe Manchin and his millionaire bullies have to tell your kids they’re not welcome in West Virginia? Just because you raised your kids to tell the truth?

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If you don’t yet fully appreciate what Joe’s in for, fast forward to the Senate race four years from now. Joe will have real opponents then, opponents with millions to spend pounding this story and a dozen others like it into the head of every voter in West Virginia. And in all likelihood, Mike Garrison will still be sitting in Stewart Hall, a big, fat, living reminder that Joe Manchin’s multimillionaire board members threatened to ruin the lives of the honest kids who spoke up against the Manchin degree scandal. Wanna guess what the big-hitting GOP political consultants will do with that, when the stakes are a Senate seat in a state that hasn’t had a Republican senator since Ike was president?

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139 Responses to “WHY IS JOE MANCHIN RUNNING YOUR CHILDREN OUT OF STATE?”

  1. Hippie Killer Says:

    Stay somewhat on topic.

  2. WVUGrad Says:

    Did I miss something, I enjoy your blog and am right with you on most of what you say but I must have missed something regarding Manchin’s comments regarding those that spoke up against him. Were they made in public, newspaper, or some other form or is this just merely hearsay? Just curious.

  3. Lou Says:

    Friday’s BOG agenda is out. See http://bog.wvu.edu/agendas Note #11 where a special meeting is planned for July to elect officers. This is somewhat unusual.

    I’ve heard several possible explanations for this. They include that they’re waiting for Sally Smith and Linda Dickirson, who are reported to be less supportive of MG than some other BOG members, to leave the Board. Let’s give them another reason. Continue to urge Manchin to replace Farmer and Wells with people with real expertise in higher education — like Morganown native Charles Vest.

    David Mitchell, can you contact Ray Lane and encourage him to get involved? I note that you’re a distinguished alum from the department named after him. He might also be a good BOG appointee.

  4. WVState Says:

    I, too, am wondering where the overt threats are documented. Have some whistleblowing students been found out?

  5. Anonymous Says:

    I don’t have any trouble accepting the premise, but I don’t see any facts associated with the allegation. You have typically documented your charges thoroughly, which is why this blog has been a beacon throughout this whole debacle.

    Can you share any facts?

  6. Mountain Step Child Says:

    Allright, this is making me crazy. What students are being threatened? H.K. you mention 19 year old kids. What kind of threat can a 19 year old student possibly be? What did they do? It’s my understanding that the undergraduate students are fairly apathetic. Does carrying a Garrison Must Go sign qualify these kids to receive a severed horse’s head on their pillows? Are the eMBA cohorts of Bresch that spoke up and said they didn’t remember her in their classes being threatened? Are those the 70 odd folks whose diplomas are now in question?

    At this rate any one who questions this and who is a graduate could be subject to having their diploma rescinded. Am I going crazy?

  7. Moe Says:

    Dead on. It’s absolutely shameful that BOG members have been threatening college students. Manchin’s hollow protestation that he has no influence over the BOG is bullshit and everyone knows it.

  8. foamy (the rabid squirel) Says:

    gotta be more to this one…

  9. i care Says:

    you know, i read your entire beginning to this……….and it is why the folks at the HSC (that are in power now) call WEST VIRGINIA the biggest elephant burying ground around…..go out of state for an education,and MG has made that a necessity, and get paid better elsewhere (like Heather is doing),and then come home to the most beautiful place around when you are old…………amazing HK…….

  10. i care Says:

    oh, and that wont turn around until the leadership changes……..if you all WANT IT TO CHANGE

  11. Anna Banana Says:

    There were most certainly reports of intimidating messages being sent to students via Board members and their cronies in the DP a while back. But it never really made it into the information stream because the DP makes you pay to read it online. And then there was the episode where the campus cops told a prof to quit “stirring the pot.” This sort of stuff is happening. Everyone knows it.

  12. Hippie Killer Says:

    From the blog Bloodless Coup:

    Miles Layton buried the lead in his story in today’s Dominion-Post on the climate of fear that’s come to exist at WVU. It’s well known that those friendly to the Goodwin/Garrison side of things have been putting pressure on certain faculty, especially at the medical center, to openly side with President Garrison, or at the very least not come out against him. But something else that’s also gone on is far more disturbing.

    Layton notes, several paragraphs into his story, that students who’ve wanted to take a stand against the mismanagement of the Garrison administration have come under heavy pressure from other students, especially some associated with student government, not to do so. In fact students who had agreed to serve in the new group that is trying to improve the university’s reputation in the wake of the scandal, Mountaineers for Integrity and Responsibility, have been pressured out of joining the organization. As to the students in question, it’s no great secret who some of them are – while SGA President Jason Parson has publicly backed Garrison, SGA Vice President Tommy Napier and others have been openly critical of the administration’s failings.

    What Layton fails to report though is exactly what kind of pressure the pro-Garrison students are putting on the critics of the administration – and why that pressure would be enough to silence, at least a bit, students who’ve spoken out against the misdeeds of some in the administration. Basically, pro-Garrison/Goodwin students (or at least one of them) have conveyed threats from a prominent member of the Board of Governors, telling these students that they will never have careers in this state unless they shut up. That a member of the Board of Governors is threatening WVU undergrads is horrifying. That a WVU student (who will of course deny it) is happily serving as his hatchet man is equally despicable. That WVU undergrads (who obviously can’t speak out about it) find themselves in this position for wanting to improve their university is a sad, sad thing.

  13. WVUGrad Says:

    Problem is the average voter in WV outside of the major cities thinks Barrack Obama is related to Osama Bin Laden (please see the television coverage after the WV primaries) and doesn’t really care about chronyism or scandals or any of that. Which is why these type of political support groups also known as the WV Good Old Boy network will continue to flourish.

  14. Ken Says:

    Nothing sinister about the officer elections in July. This year’s higher ed bill that passed in March creates new, separate BOG’s for all CTC’s, effective July 1; and so the bill also directs that all BOG elections of officers occur, this year only, in July. Gov may or may not have named new appointees by that time for the WVU BOG.

    As to 19 yr olds, let’s at least try to be accurate here. Ms. Bresch’s fellow students who revealed her absence from classes were at least 23 years old TEN YEARS AGO, so we are not talking about MG or Goodwin or anybody else threatening 19 year olds for telling the truth.

    Hyperbole can be an enemy of keeping attention focued on making things right in Morgantown

  15. Hippie Killer Says:

    Uh, Ken, I am talking about CURRENT students here.

    I discussed the members of Ms. Bresch’s cohort in another post.

  16. i care Says:

    i know,i know,……..”if it was good enough for my grandparents it’s good enough for me”……that mentality will allow this state to be an elephant burying ground…..pitiful……change your course of history…….be bold…….

  17. WVUGrad Says:

    Ken, I’m not familiar with the higher education bill that you speak of. You are referring to a seperate BOG with members elected by the student body/faculty (or some other group) and not by the Governor?

  18. LaReina Says:

    From the Bloodless coup quote: Basically, pro-Garrison/Goodwin students (or at least one of them) have conveyed threats from a prominent member of the Board of Governors, telling these students that they will never have careers in this state unless they shut up.

    HK, I’m not doubting, but that’s a lot of double or triple hearsay. It would be good if we could get some names and more direct evidence of the allegation.

  19. Solution to Mikey's problem Says:

    Ask WVU Alumni 2008 about his friends being threatened by Goodwin. It did happen. I wish they would come forward. It could be a tipping point…

  20. Solution to Mikey's problem Says:

    of course, it is he said, she said, unless there were witnesses…

  21. Hippie Killer Says:

    It’s more than enough for me just to know what was going on.

  22. Solution to Mikey's problem Says:

    I know this may be off topic but I am told that press is coming out stating Manchin’s involvement with “the consultants” in the months prior to them coming here. It is only getting uglier.

  23. Anonymous Says:

    In the interest of accuracy, you may want to point out that the post from Bloodless Coup you’ve excerpted is dated May 13, 2008, which would be the same date for the DP story that’s referenced.

    And I agree with LaReina that a name or two attached to the story would help.

  24. kristen Says:

    to look at it another way -joe manchin is trying to keep kids in state. if we can’t go out of state to get jobs b/c our degrees aren’t worth anything, then we have to stay here.
    i’ve been so depressed over this lately. i’ve worked so hard in law school and i am scared that people will just laugh at me when i go out of state for interviews. it just isn’t fair. it isn’t fair when you don’t have connections. when everyone in your family is a coal miner and you have supported yourself through school. grrrr

  25. Chris Says:

    This seems to have the substance of a cream puff. A Blog reported it as true, so it must be true? This person couldn’t be sensationalizing to try to get people to read what they write could they? What could a BOG member do anyway? Getting a student kicked out would leave a paper trail and school would have to have substantial reasons. No school would risk the potential law suit that would result.

    Never be able to work in WV? Are you serious? Most WVU graduates are leaving anyway because there are no jobs in WV. What careers are possible other than coal mining, tourism, or politician? Health care is the only industry that comes to mind as growing in the state.

    If you have testimony or some facts use it, otherwise it just seems like you are chicken little shouting that the sky is falling

  26. Solution to Mikey's problem Says:

    Chris, Goodwin didn’t threaten to kick the students out of school. His threat was that they would never get a job in WV

  27. Anonymous Says:

    Why is the Mon County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office not investigating this matter? Why is the Attorney General of West Virginia silent on the degree scandal?

  28. Mntnmama Says:

    I have another suggestion for a new BOG appointee for you all to vette. His name is George Bennett, and he must’ve graduated around 1965. He started Boston Consulting Group, a very well-known and respected firm, and sold it a few years ago. He’s also started up a company that works with academic MDs in Boston (read Harvard) to maintain current health information that people can access if they have questions about a particular health problem. Hard to explain, but impressive. He knows how to manage, he understands the world “out there,” he has fundraising ability, and he understands the needs of a high quality academic institution. And what about Henry Gates? We have so many high-calibre people to drawn on, and probably many whose names aren’t yet as well known as these.

  29. WVU Alumni 2008 Says:

    I sent my letter to every member of the WVU BOG. I got one response–from Board member Sally Smith. She seems very reasonable.

    Whether the WVU BOG like it or not, they will see the letter I sent in “The Dominion Post” this week.

  30. WVU Alumni 2008 Says:

    Joe Manchin might as well appoint himself to the WVU BOG.

  31. Anonymous Says:

    chris, i can confirm it is true. you can believe me or not, i don’t really care.

  32. bob Says:

    has anyone heard of a resignation today of a top official in admissions and records ? I smell another scapegoat being thrown under the bus

  33. LaReina Says:

    >>>>>>>Joe Manchin might as well appoint himself to the WVU BOG.

    Right after he appoints himself U.S. Senator on Byrd’s demise.

  34. Aged Wolverine Says:

    In Michigan we may be a lot of things…but tolerant of corrupt politics we are not.

    Ask former Flint Mayor Woodrow Stanley( who had his arse removed from office), and that embattled Detroit Mayor who was put on trial for perjury.

    For all you associated in the various cover-ups…and keeping Garrison in office etc(this reads you Goodwin/Manchin/several BOG members)…a nice politically incorrect msg from the overspoken Aged_Wolverine…

    Eat chit and live you sick twisted fracks.

    The way you stomp on others hopes/dreams in their state/university/careers/families futures makes folks like me forget the animosity between our 2 states.

    All in the name of the almighty dollar…I dont know how you folks look at yourself in the mirror.

    And MS BRESCH…you silver-spoon fed skank. I would wager in my day the ole Aged one was quite a bit brighter…but alas health and various factors extinguished the light bulb.

    Even with the lights dim, I could still figure out if I had earned a degree or not. What is your excuse you sorry excuse for a human being?

    You can lie to yourself about the degree…or even that you deserve all you have in life. But let me tell ya honey…your sorry arse wouldnt be worth half of what your portfolio shows if that spoon wasnt in your mouth…rather than in your arse where it belongs.

    Tirade done….sorry folks. Seeing HKs latest post just makes me angrier for you guys. In any other state, you wouldnt be going thru this BS.

    Gonna take a break for a day or 2…healths been bad for several days now, and chit likes this just stirs me up.

    Keep your heads high and continue the good fight :)

    Note: I apologize if I offended any of the good folks who frequent this site. The bad ones can blow me.

  35. Solution to Mikey's problem Says:

    this is how it should be presented to 60 minutes or GC 360. Student threatened to keep mouth shut or will never get job in this state. That about says it all.

  36. Karen Says:

    Isn’t this rich. Manchin asks Dick Cheney to apologize to West Virginians for a joke he made:

    http://www.wvmetronews.com/index.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=24960

    Now if we could just get Manchin’s daughter to apologize to the people of West Virginia. And the president of WVU to apologize to the people of West Virginia. Both of whom have done infinitely more harm.

    Manchin has a screwed up set of priorities.

    Send in the clowns.

  37. spot on Says:

    The Director of Admissions and Records is resigning to take the position of Registrar at another institution. His leaving has nothing to do with events or climate at WVU.

  38. Lou Says:

    A few days ago, someone indicated that they had attempted to get in formation about Parents’ Club send-off events without luck. Some information is now posted online – http://parentsclub.wvu.edu/events/summer_send_0ff_schedule
    The time of events is not posted but there is also a Club Directory at http://parentsclub.wvu.edu/directories/local_club_directory
    Thus, if whomever asked is still interested in attending events in an effort to win parent support, the needed information is now available.

  39. Don't Say Says:

    Funny, I thought the WV “Good Ole Boys” and Obama were in the same party.

  40. Revolutionary Says:

    I’ve given this whole ordeal much thought….this was a good situation for those in power, from Manchin to Garrison, and then eventually, especially with the assistance of the consultant DeLuzio, Bailes as VP for the HSC. Then, news of the fraudulent degree, so the scenario had to change somewhat, to that of DeLuzio turning just a tad against the HSC, to provie his credibility, but not enough to ruin his being there, meanwhile Garrison spins his own diversion, and now they’re planning to put the blame on many others, if need be. And, after the various smokescreens dissipate, Bailes keeps his salary and still moves into the VP position, Garrison remains as Pres and Manchin remains as the governor. This has been in the making for quite some time. Afterall, their initial conquest, what they’ve been after since the get go, they want control of HSC funds, the cornerstone in the entire complex.

  41. Question Says:

    Spot on @7:40 Is that Khoo?

  42. azlo's wannabe friend Says:

    The funny part is that there are very few dollars to be found in the so-called wvu health care system. I hope these boys are happy fighting over nothing, while hsc sinks as low as it can go. And the patients head outside wv to pgh, virginia, ohio for decent quality care.

  43. Left Shadow Says:

    D I S A P P O I N T E D !

    I took the sunsplashed afternoon off and drove to Morgantown for the public forum. What a complete waste of time. Maybe 100 people were there. Journalists outnumbered the students. A few faculty, a couple of alumni and a candidate for Governor showed up. The Mountainlair was teeming with young men and women accompanied by their families for registration and I did not see one of these people standing around on the green. After several uninspiring keynotes we heard from a rep of the math dept., a rep from the psychology dept, a rep from English and a rep from the HSC who started to sob (suggest you go out and buy yourself a copy of The Art of War by Sun Tzu). For many that are speaking out it is now kill or be killed.

    Garrison & Co. must be laughing all the way home tonight.

    Folks, if you want to win this war, it’s time to bring your A game. Today’s showing was pathetic.

  44. jontex Says:

    OK man. I just started reading this blog today and now this highly charged piece is given to us.

    I hope that this can be substantiated in some way or this interesting blog that I have discovered will fall by the wayside.

    I’ll be watching.

  45. Revolutionary Says:

    There’s a major problem now though, as their web of deceit is spinning out of control. I believe it’s safe to say that the feds have been conducting their own investigations, and will no doubt wreak havoc in the lives of many. Yes, eventually the dust will settle, but at what expense, and to many people. This scandal, and yes, Mike Garrison, has taken the wonderful state of West Virginia in a downward spiral, further than even he wanted to go, and it will cost us more than we would ever want to pay, literally, not figuratively speaking.

  46. Revolutionary Says:

    The pop tax alone, 15 million dollars, which supports approximately 120 salaries, that’s people, that’s children, that’s families. But to scags like Manchin, it equates to money in his pocket and those of his cronies that he’d promised to support. D’alessandri and Co fought these crooks many times, and with integrity, and won. Not for the sake of winning, but for the many folks whose livelihood depended on this tax. And, you’ll never guess, but the hsc is under the gun again, yes, the pop tax. Not to mention the various dollars designated to research. Money, the love therein, is the root of this evil.

  47. Revolutionary Says:

    And Garrison is really just a pawn who proved to be very stupid.

  48. Moe Says:

    Chris – HK can correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the point of the post (or at least one of the points) is that in politics, perception is reality. Joe Manchin and Mike Garrison certainly know that, which is why they’re spinning this as a record-keeping mistake by the school, even though anyone who bothers to read about the issue for 5 minutes knows that’s totally false. The only effective way to fight back is to embrace that principle and turn this into a perception problem for Joe. And HK’s post is a tutorial on how to do that.

    But by all means, keep on pushing back, because your arguing about it is what will give the story legs. It’s like “When did you stop beating your wife?” and Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Hell, go take out ads in the paper saying THERE IS NO INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT JOE MANCHIN’S BOG THREATENED TO DESTROY A STUDENT’S CAREER. That’ll really hit us where it hurts.

  49. Kevin Patrick Says:

    I had some advice recently about politics, and life in general I suppose. It was in the context of when speaking to the media, but would suit anywhere. “Tell the truth the first time, and you won’t have to remember what you said.” I do not what is politic, I do what is right. Many of us have taken this stance in the last 5 weeks. People will see that, and they will respect it. Although the current heads-of-State do have a death-grip on power here, it is not absolute; as they will eventually find out.

    My advice to the other students. Do what you know in your heart is correct. Integrity cannot be bought; but you can give it away, and then it is nearly impossible to get back. So hold on to it. You will have the backing of other students, faculty, staff, and every honest West Virginian.

    Alumni will see that, maybe they own a WV’ian business. Maybe they should be on the look out for students with honor to hire in the near future. There are always other options, but you may have to work for them.

    This coterie of power-mad individuals will not always be in control. Be patient, or vote them out. Either way, your lives are not ruined by these statements.

    — Kevin Patrick

  50. Revolutionary Says:

    Kevin, you are most noble, and also most correct. We must stay the course, divide and conquer – a most strategic maneuver, used many times over in our history. And that same strategy is what they have been positioning and dangling before our very noses, they have divided us so to speak with their many diversions. Mike Garrison is the weak point and should be our main attack. To save himself he will and has already displayed division, hence allowing for he and his good ole boys to be conquered. Keep after Garrison and the rest will fall.

  51. Kevin Patrick Says:

    Left Shadow,
    Thanks for coming out to the Assembly this afternoon. I notice that you did not mention if you spoke. Did you? I’m sorry if we did not meet your standards; I’ll remind you that it’s summer session, there were exams at 12:50, and other classes. Some students have to earn their degrees.

    I cannot wait to receive an invitation to your public forum where 5 newspapers from 4 cities and 2 tv news crews show up. Let me know when and where it is, and I’ll be there. By the way, that emotional speaker you so nicely spoke of is a student from HSC; not a formal representative.

    Regardless, there was an overwhelming support by the Faculty, and for you to belittle it does more to make a point about the speaker than the subject. I’m sorry if this was a disappointment to you; and I wish you good luck in the proactive and public things which you do on this issue.

    I stand honestly and publicly by my comments; what’s your name by the way “Left Shadow?”

    — Kevin Patrick

  52. A Friend Says:

    Kevin,

    I’m just pleased to hear that students believe it important to EARN their degrees. I was afraid some students might have taken the opposite lesson from this debacle.

    Keep up the good work.

    A Friend

  53. inthetrenches Says:

    Byrd in the hospital; will Garrison resign to be appointed by Manchin as our next senator? I feel like there should be “Twilight Zone” theme surrounding much of this.

  54. 1971 MA, WVU Says:

    I have been a Democrat all my life and supported Governor Manchin by working on his campaign and in his Inaugauration. However, I am totally disappointed in how he and his daughter have handled this situation. I don’t understand what is so hard about saying we have made a mistake and want to clear it up by telling the truth… Heather did not go through all the steps to earn her degree. Since that did not happen, I am convinced that the Governor and his daughter do not tell the truth. Neither does President Garrison. The sooner they face the cold fact that their integrity is shot, the better. I will never vote for a Manchin for any political office again.

  55. Mntnmama Says:

    Revolutionary: You say that you “believe it’s safe to say that the feds have been conducting their own investigations.” What are you talking about? Who is investigating, what are they investigating, and where are they investigating it?

  56. a hole Says:

    I decided today at the student assembly that I am voting for the Mountain Party candidate for Governor. Can’t remember his name or what he stands for, but I’ll be fucked in my ass before voting for Manchin or who ever the fucked up Republican is. God this is so fucked up.

  57. Kevin Patrick Says:

    A hole,
    That man’s name was Jesse Johnson. The Republican Candidate is Charles Minimah.

    —KP

  58. WVU Alumni 2008 Says:

    HK: Everything you say is right on the money. The sad part is–I do not even need a direct threat to know my political career in West Virginia is over before it even began. All my friends are in the same boat. Whether or not there was a direct threat makes no difference. We all know EXACTLY what we risk when we speak out, every letter to the editor we pen or every blog entry we post. Not that I ever wanted to enter politics; I want to do something that will actually make a difference.

    I did graduate as a political science and journalism major. Not only that, I graduated as an Order of Augusta (top eight students at WVU) member this year.

    What I cannot stomach in all of this is that Mike Garrison looked me in the face and lied. Garrison told me, promised me, he would not hurt the university further. I was convinced that he truly knew he made a serious error and would do everything in his power to fix it. Then, presto chango, 70 faulty degrees.

    Garrison and I have such similar backgrounds when it comes to upbringing–first-generation college students, West Virginians, low income, etc. I feel even more than betrayed by his lack of integrity on this issue. On top of that, we both won the Rotary Ambassadorial Scholarship. He went to Oxford; I’m going to the University of Glasgow in Scotland. I simply wonder if he had remembered Rotary’s Four Way Test if this scandal would have happened.

    Not only that, I saw Garrison this past Thursday when I was having lunch at the Regatta with one of my most trusted and idolized professors. He shook my hand and asked how my mom was doing; he asked me the same thing when I walked across the stage at graduation. My mother is having some serious health problems right now. When Garrison found out from our meeting that she was at Ruby, he sent someone, personally, to check on her.

    That means something to me. People may not know or believe this, but I honestly believe Garrison is a good man, deep down. I do not know if he acted toward me to deceitfully gain my trust or not. I would like to think he was genuine. What he succeeded in doing was clouding my judgement of Garrison the leader v. Garrison the man. He cannot do the job as president, but as a person or friend, I am sure he is a great one.

    I sincerely believe, now, the only reason Garrison is hanging on is because he knows his career is over. No one is going to take him back–not with all this baggage, at least not right now. That is a precarious and tough position to be in for anyone.

    As for the WVU BOG, we all know who runs that clown show. Goodwin is pure evil, plain and simple. I will tell him that to his face, and I said as much in student forums. When demagogues such as Goodwin are gone, West Virginia will be lifted from 50th in every indicator–from obesity to poverty. If anyone needs to be booted from this state, it is the Goodwins of the state. We should round them all up and send them to Russia–there they will learn what real corrupt politics are all about.

    What ever happened to civil servants who cared? Government for the people and by the people? Surely, West Virginia is lost if this pure cronyism goes unchecked. Do I believe Garrison leaned on people to give Heather Bresch her degree? No, that is not his style. Did he make terrible and awful mistakes that are fireable offenses? Absolutely. Is he qualified to lead a Research Intensive University? According to our resumes–mine is actually a CV–I am more qualified.

    I am not prepared to lynch someone who was in way over his head to begin with. Although, if his poison pill tactics continue, I would take the gloves off, too. That is my duty to my state and university. It has taught me what to believe and how to operate.

    And let us not forget poor Heather Bresch who honestly believed she had her EMBA degree. What a joke!? This whole situation is her fault for calling Garrison in the first place. But Garrison was dumb enough to hand it off to his staff, instead of sending her to Admissions and Records to sort the whole situation out.

    The idea of blaming the press for the error. That does no fly. There was a full two months between when the inquiry from the Post Gazette came in and when they broke the story–enough time to conduct a through examination of the records. Garrison and Co.’s response should have been this: “There are some discrepancies in Mrs. Bresch’s records. We are going to launch a full inquiry, and we will respond in due time–when we have verifiable records concerning her degree status.”

    I sent each member of the WVU BOG my CV, too–with my letter requesting action against Garrison. I am not some off-the-wall student. I have dedicated my life for four years to WVU. It pains me beyond belief to see the university hurt. Believe me, I have lost friends, acquaintances and jobs because of this, as well. But, in the end, I have to do what is right, which Garrison should have considered all along.

    This is not a political issue for me, although all the elements are there–and it certainly has become one, and fast.

    Let us this all ends soon, before WVU is little better than Marshall.

    Sincerely,

    Joshua Lynn Austin
    WVU Class of 2008
    Order of Augusta

  59. Gullible Says:

    How was your graduation weekend experience?

    http://simpleforms.scripts.wvu.edu/sf/2008CommSurvey/

  60. WVU Alumni 2008 Says:

    Gullible: Would you e-mail that link to Heather Bresch? She seems to have forgotten her graduation.

  61. Revolutionary Says:

    Medical fraud, second most important for investigation by the feds – but this has been academic fraud, proven and committed, and no doubt the feds are conducting an investigation covertly, primarily because it’s too great for outsiders and will take time…they are a patient lot.

  62. garrisonmustgo Says:

    The Mountain Party Candidate for Governor is Jesse Johnson. I spoke with him briefly today and was told that his website will be up this week. The address for the site will be http://www.jesse4wvgov.org. FYI Jesse is also a Presidential Candidate on the Green Party Ticket.

    I believe that all things considered todays event was a success.

    Also, for any of you who did not make it, you can read the keynote addresses from Cindy Frich and from Aina Puce, PhD

  63. Gullible Says:

    Don’t be too depressed that the rally today was relatively poorly attended.

    * Monday is a poor choice for such events. Tuesday-Thursday is much better.
    * It’s summer. You can’t find 100 students right now to attend a free keg party.
    * Never have an event in a huge empty space like the Lair plaza. If it were in one of the Lair classrooms, there would have been an overflow crowd and the same turnout would have been seen as a huge success.
    * There is no chance of having a huge public gathering until August.

  64. Reply to Revolutionary Says:

    Revolutionary: You mention the consultant at HSC being named DeLuzio. Is that Vince Deluzio, a Pittsburgh lawyer once affiliated with Mylan lawyers in Pittsburgh, including Mr. Heather Bresch?

    Just curious.

  65. Kevin Patrick Says:

    I was not allowed to get a room in the Lair. I do not think that today was poorly attended. I think that it went off fairly well. We had 100 people there! Today was a success. If this issue, god-forbid, is not resolved and we have to have another next semester, imagine it then!

    —KP

  66. Hippie Killer Says:

    You people need to avoid Cindie Fritch like the Plague. I’m telling you.

  67. 1971 MA, WVU Says:

    WVU 2008 – Joshua:
    I am proud of you. WVU has done something right to produce a graduate like you, who can not only think and speak well, but has integrity and honor. I wish you well.

  68. garrisonmustgo Says:

    Reply to Rev:

    I believe you are speaking of the same Vince Deluzio

    HK:

    I have to admire Frich for no other reason that she has taken a stance. None of the other HoD Candidates have the balls to even respond to my email, let alone take a stance that could be political suicide.

    Kevin:

    I too think today was a success. Thank for all of your efforts organizing today’s event. It was a fantastic first step and it will only get better.

  69. 70s Grad Says:

    Joshua, my hat is off to you. You are an example of all that is right and good about West Virginia. I have a background similar to yours, and I finally left the state at age 32 — 23 years ago now.

    I hope you won’t leave W. Va., but since I left to pursue my career, it is difficult for me to press others to remain. My ancestors came to Virginia in 1608, and my great great grandfather was born in Kanawha County in 1810. After all those generations, and becoming the first to graduate from college, I decided I had to leave.

    I assure you that the lessons you are taking from this mess will serve you well in the world on the other side of the state line. West Virginians who have paid attention are so much more politically savvy as a result. I find that West Virginians stand out in every professional setting in which they surface. There are places in this world where you can use your knowledge and skills to advance what is good and decent. I have no doubt you will find such a place. There are not very many of us West Virginians really, but we are highly positioned in nearly any field you name.

    Both of us need to remember that the road that takes us out of West Virginia also has a lane coming back. We can stay involved because we love the state, and who knows, we may end up back there again one day. I don’t think you will ever regret taking the stand you have taken, no matter what the price. The price of remaining silent would be so much greater.

  70. Revolutionary Says:

    Mntnmama – sounds as though you’re worried – well, it’s too late to cry now, troll, it’s spilled milk, spoiling as each day passes.

  71. Gullible Says:

    Kevin,

    I wasn’t insulting you — just following on the earlier comment that it was poorly attended.

    100 people for an event in June is very good.

  72. spot on Says:

    Sorry Question: been at the gym working out my aggression. Yes, Khoo’s leaving.

  73. Kevin Patrick Says:

    I wasn’t insulted. Simply correcting a factual error. (-:

  74. wvu1 Says:

    Has anyone posted the businesses and firms of the BOG members?

  75. Revolutionary Says:

    Yes, Vince DeLuzio and he is extremely slick, and savvy, quite the combination.

  76. Experienced Says:

    Joshua, your career is not ending, it’s just beginning. I understand your emotion (we’re all feeling it). Please don’t take this situation too much to heart-you didn’t create it. Garrison probably is a caring man and when you’re older you’ll understand that good people make bad decisions or that people can be good and bad at the same time. You will be judged on what you do and what you accomplish and your stand today will probably put in you in a profiles in courage category for those who remember. This whole affair will eventually be history and you’ll keep the lessons of it in your mind and heart.

  77. russ weeks Says:

    Charles Minimah is the republican candidate for SOS not governor…

  78. Kevin Patrick Says:

    Oh, Russ. You’re right. I’m sorry. It’s been a busy day. Thanks for watching out. (-:

    –KP

  79. WVU Techie Says:

    The Republican candidate for governor is Russ Weeks. Charles Minimah is the Republican candidate for Secretary of State.

    I was glad to see Jesse Johnson come and speak up about the situation. He seemed genuinely interested in the situation and wanting to clean things up. It’s too bad that none of our local legislative delegation (except former Del. Cindy Frich – R) bothered to show up.

    Russ Weeks definitely should have been there and it would have been nice for the Democrats to make an appearance and show that they don’t condone corruption.

  80. Revolutionary Says:

    Then there’s another saying, to fight fire with fire. And to hit Garrison where it hurts, and where might that be, perhaps with Ms. Lopez? I’m sure she could shed some light on the true blue mg. And there’s nothing worse than a woman scorned.

  81. Poe Dunk Says:

    although we talk about the Bresch incident as being the one to focus on in order to bring down MG, it is also possible that the HSC mess including dealing with R and V consulting group will be his downfall. Don’t give up on that.

  82. garrisonmustgo Says:

    wvu1:

    You can find info about the BOG businesses/firms, along with their contact info here.

  83. Don't Say Says:

    I think that Mountain Party guy is a Neo-Nazi.

  84. 1971 MA, WVU Says:

    Don’t Say. Who cares. The point is: I will vote for someone other than the A.J.’s nephew next time.

  85. Revolutionary Says:

    Butcher needs to get some backbone about himself and show vince dedogio the door

  86. The Lockster Says:

    Damn right 1971 MA. A vote for someone else is a vote against MoJo.

  87. Mntnmama Says:

    Oh Revolutionary, since when is it trolling to ask you to be more specific than you’ve been? You can’t go around pretending to have information about federal investigations and then blame people for asking whether you really know something or you’re just blowing hot air. Statements like “I believe it’s safe to say the feds have been conducting their own investigations” and “no doubt the feds are conducting an investigation” are a little too vague.

  88. Tickedoff Says:

    See where Walgreens decided not to build their new store in Grafton. I wonder who killed that? Guess the price of Meds will go up there.

  89. Revolutionary Says:

    Well, Mntnmama – when your crap hits you in the face, then I guess my evasive vagueness would put a new spin on “hot air”, you think? Oh, it’s gonna get hot alright and personally, I can’t wait.

  90. Revolutionary Says:

    Mike Garrison, as Coach Stewart referred to as a man’s man, should take a man’s stance and RESIGN, and take his cohorts with him. Then and only then, can this University be restored. The writing’s on the wall, Mntnmama, you know it, I know it, the state’s citizens know it, the country knows it, and sad but true it’s beyond our country’s borders. Do you really believe that fraud of any kind would not warrant an investigation by the feds? They’re not going to present at your doorstop, announce who they are and that they’re conducting an investigation, then politely ask you where best to begin and where not to trod!

  91. observer Says:

    Joshua:
    it is quite possible that MG is a kind person concerned about other people. I can think of others — the president of the US, who has started a disastrous war, is a polite person, according to a very old article in a national news magazine, who even as a college student made sure to write condolence notes to classmates. People are complicated. A former supervisor (not at WVU) who had very good political skills and was embattled was also very sympathetic and concerned when I was dealing with a family situation. Good politicians try to keep friends and are good with people. As you become older, you’ll become used to this.
    Giving him the benefit of the doubt, MG may have just been naive and inexperienced in his handling of the degree issue. Precisely because of this naivete and inexperience — if such is the case — he is not qualified to do his job.
    Of course, I could also go by HK’s chronicle, connect the dots, and conclude that MG is a corrupt manipulator. (Of course, you, HK, also have top-rate skills as far as convincing others is concerned. You take no prisoners, and your outrage is genuine. I am afraid you are right, even though you see everything in black and white. I would hope this blog makes it into WV history books, regardless of the outcome.)
    I never talked to MG – just shook his hand once at a formal event with many people. I do know some of the other principal actors, and in some cases, all the members of their immediate families, and I feel very sorry for them. In some cases, I feel betrayed by people I used to respect.
    The main culprit, in my view, is Ms. “what do you mean I don’t have my degree, I know I do” — I could imagine her in an upscale restaurant claiming that she absolutely knows she has a reservation, when she does not, and the staff, wishing to avoid a scene, will somehow contrive to seat her.
    Good luck to you and to all other recent graduates. Reading the DA after this scandal broke out, I felt very sad that we, the adults (and at the time I was employed at WVU in a temporary capacity) failed you, the students.
    I just got back from out of state. The people I spoke to — academics at another state flagship institution — did not know ANYTHING about the degree scandal — they just considered WVU a party school. I think they did not quite understand why I was so upset about the situation.
    I’m sure you’ll do fine. There are many, many successful alumni outside WVU who show that WVU teaches people to work very hard. Please believe in yourself and believe in the value of your education — your education, in the long run, is what you put into it yourself.

  92. Karen Says:

    Well said, Observer. I would add that in considering ethical situations, we do make evaluations of the person’s behavior, not the person himself.

    I also find Heather Bresch to be the “main culprit”.

  93. Little Person Says:

    How about an organized write-in campaign for Governor in November. Charlotte Pritt beat him once and can probably do it again.

  94. fox hunter Says:

    Hippie Killer: That photo is downright scary. It puts a face on the nightmare we are living.

  95. WVU Alumni 2008 Says:

    I know…let us all write in Mike Garrison for governor. What a coup that would be!

  96. fox hunter Says:

    The press coverage of today’s student assembly that I have seen so far has been positive, especially the TV coverage.

    Lawbot: Thanks for coming up to Morgantown. I wish others within driving distance had shown similar dedication. Maybe next time we can serve some imported beer–always a crowd pleaser and certain to loosen some tongues!

    Kevin: Good job on today’s event. Anything that jump starts student awareness is a worthwhile effort. Students are a hard bunch to reach, especially during the summer.

    Joshua: Congratulations on your awards and accomplishments. Kudos to you (and Kevin) for unmasking yourselves on this blog. Continue to keep up the good fight.

  97. anonymous Says:

    Tommy Napier was one of the students threatened by what he called a “higher up” or administrator, i forget which. He said this at the DA student forum before the end of the semester. The threat was a reaction to his very well-written article to the DA.

  98. garrisonmustgo Says:

    Lawbot, you were there today? I didn’t see you, but then again, we have only met briefly, and I was a little tanked at the time.

  99. bobolink Says:

    Left Shadow at June 2, 2008 at 8:13 pm:

    Yes, I’ve been depressed ever since I went to the forum this afternoon. Although I did manage a frightful sunburn, I was otherwise, totally deflated by the lack of showing. It would seem, from the anemic turnout, that the copious discussion on this matter has amounted to “sound and fury” “signifying nothing”. (It’s probably not that dire, but spare me a moment of sadness while I contemplate the thin showing). While it maybe one thing to be disappointed in students who seem pathetically disengaged, it’s quite another to see the apathy of the faculty and staff. Tomorrow, I will be ready to fight again (for any lurkers looking for weakened defenses) but tonight will be spent sipping an antidote to the disappointment.

  100. bobolink Says:

    This is not to criticise the organizers– no. But, certainly, there were many, many more folk who could have, should have, been there in support, but were not. I am just mystified by this.

  101. bobolink Says:

    oops, typos. Blame it on the sun. I really did fry out there. I’m just a poor HSC office rat that doesn’t’ get out much.

  102. bobolink Says:

    Last comment– I must commend the prof of English– her comments were eloquent and spot on. Made me proud to have the same business card!

  103. WVU Techie Says:

    The Post-Gazette has another editorial today on “WVU-gate” as they’re calling it. It is at http://postgazette.com/pg/08155/886823-192.stm .

    The closing sums it up nicely:
    “WVU is a public institution whose administrators tried to con the public. The matter is ripe for legal investigation.

    If the board of governors can’t find the backbone to do what is right, another authority must take charge and bring justice to WVU. That will only prolong the university’s nightmare before bringing it to a close.”

  104. WVU Techie Says:

    The Post-Gazette has also published some details on the Faculty Senate Meeting. See http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08155/886954-28.stm .

    Faculty Senate voted to demand (with no timetable) an accounting of the supposed degree deficiencies. They want to know the number of credits each student was short and they year they graduated (no names, though). While I understand there are potential FERPA issues , I think that at least the Executive Committee needs to see a full listing with student names and courses. Otherwise, there is nothing to prove that Garrison & Co. aren’t just making up the information.

    Faculty Senate also discussed replacing Steve Kite with Nigel Clark as the BoG representative since Kite wouldn’t disclose how he would vote if there were an attempt to remove Garrison. The replacement effort was apparently tabled because of concerns if Manchin would certify the new representative in time for Friday’s meeting.

  105. Hippie Killer Says:

    Today’s event was really no gauge at all of how many people are closely following this issue. So if you were disappointed, don’t dwell on it.

    The good news is, it looked totally decent on TV.

    It’s great that someone organized a forum, and it’s great that people went to it. And as someone pointed out earlier, a lot of the faculty and almost all of the students are gone — you couldn’t have drawn more people if you had free beer.

    Bnd trust me, you don’t realize how many people were likely scared away when they found out someone a moonbat gave Cindy Frich a microphone. If you need me to explain why, then you have much to learn about the reality of politics in West Virginia.

    In general, any event that features characters — and I honestly don’t mean that in a bad way — like Jesse Johnson tend to attract a certain set of people and repel others. That said, I personally believe that 60’s forms of protest like rallies and forums are outdated. They’ve steadily lost effectiveness since ‘72 or so, partly because the issues people were facing way back when were MUCH more visceral. But still, whenever there’s controversy, the first thing people think of doing is a 60’s style protest. Partly nostalgia, partly because we have yet to think of anything else.

    My suggestion: I don’t really have one. This blog is my own, lame form of protest, I suppose.

    Honestly, I think that Josh Austin beat us all today. His letter is might be the most devastating blow dealt to Garrison since the Report broke. He’s young, he’s an undeniable academic star, and he’s taken a brave stand.

    That is the sort of action hits a nerve with people.

    You’re all educated people. Continue to use your intellect to find new ways to keep pressure on Manchin, the BOG, and Garrison.

  106. Don't know much Says:

    First of all, I equate this situation to the Clinton situation. Some questions should never be asked Ms Bresch!
    Second,,, My husband, a very distinguished faculty member interviewed and was offered a job in Pa today. We will probably accept. I have to leave one of my children here as he is a WVU student. Raised him in this town for 16 years. My heart breaks!

  107. Don't know much Says:

    I”m also sick that Garrison’s name will be on his diploma next year!

  108. Left Shadow Says:

    To Kevin Patrick –

    I am not critisizing you. I am on your team. The attendance yesterday was pathetic. As I have said before the people most affected by this are the current and incoming crop of students who will find it difficult to find jobs to begin their careers. They should be raging on this in front of Stewart Hall until Garrison is gone. To me it’s a sad reflection. In the business world I would rather consider a radical who stood up for what is right than a person willing to accept corruption from management. But then again, Gordon Gekko is my hero.

  109. Lurking In The Grass Says:

    Josh,

    You want to do something that will make a difference? Do the right thing….you’ll know what it is. It’s a credo that seems to be soorly lacking at WVU at the moment.

  110. Steph Says:

    The Rally – The reality is somewhere in the middle, perhaps. Even the cops standing by looked pretty close to their rocking chairs. PR is always good, and newspapers love photos more than content. It was on WBOY 5pm news – from the town where “nothing was wrong” according to their newspaper yesterday.

    Also, I heard that the band – playing for free – had a conflict. Multiply that by a lot of folks you think should have been there.

    If this lasts a year or more – we still have to work and live. Kevin: this was a good rehearsal if you need Round 2 this fall.

    Let’s hope not.

    Not everyone saw the large posters off to the side – a scathing repudiation of Jason Parsons, Pres. of Student Government, and his failure to represent students on the BOG. Another about Ron Justice’s private petition.

    WHICH REMINDS ME: lists of business interests of BOG members would be a good project for an energetic person. A partial list went out last week. The BOG “CV” info is not complete enough.

  111. Lurking In The Grass Says:

    And lighten up on the students!! When i got home last night, I jumped to WBOY to see what happend and I thought it looked good!! Great even !! How’s that Arlo Guthrie rap go in Alice’s Restaurant? “…and pretty soon we’ll have a movement…”

    Just keep the pressure on. This gutless , unethical crew will fold their hands. Ask them all to repeat their testimony to the Panel under oath!! Let’s see who is willing to face perjury charges!!

    Oh yea….giving a mic Cindy was a bad idea…always a bad idea. But give her a few props for being someone, the only one, from the backbenchers to stand up in public and cry bullshit!! Where was Weeks, Gary?

  112. Jay Says:

    As Pat Buchannon said of the Neocons, “Movements turn into businesses, and businesses turn into rackets”.

  113. Lurking In The Grass Says:

    Pat Buchannon is no Arlo Guthrie.

  114. Jay Says:

    No, but as one of the architects of modern conservatism, he knows how it went wrong. Some of the strange bedfellows I’m seeing are parasitic usurpers who will try to turn the Bresch scandal into lower taxes for businesses, lower wages for workers, lower DEP standards, etc….

  115. Lurking In The Grass Says:

    I quit listening to Bucahnnon years ago. But I still pull out Arlo’s Greatets Hits from time to time. And there is nothing modern about this grab for power.

  116. MSN Says:

    Joe must go and there has to be more of a grassroots movement… Unfortunately the other millionaires that might be able to fund a creditable campaign are probably in cahoots with our massa…The People are afraid to move against anything in this state…We are afraid of state government, our school boards, and in some areas the local police…

  117. POP Says:

    Joe………how about this?
    http://2008central.net/index.php?s=joe+manchin

  118. MU prof Says:

    Joshua (9:18 comment), I applaud your courage, commitment and passion. But why insult Marshall University with the comment: “Let us [hope?] this all ends soon, before WVU is little better than Marshall.” I believe that I am correct in saying that the MU community is strongly behind the WVU faculty in its effort to protect academic integrity.

  119. WVU Alumni 2008 Says:

    MU prof it was a joke, and I was wrapped up in the moment. Strike that and insert Pitt. I needed some levity in the situation. After all this, it makes me respect Marshall even more.

    I actually suggested earlier that the WVU BOG look to the Marshall BOG for guidance on how to operate.

  120. Andrew Sabak Says:

    I was at the student-led forum on Monday, and my compliments to those who organized it. I even took the opportunity to say a few words on behalf of the community at large, since I have no link with WVU beyond my wife’s advanced degrees.

    As proof of the high degree of organization, one can look at several objective parameters: media presence, crowd size, timing, and quality.

    As far as the media presence, I counted at least 3 TV cameras going (Clarksburg Channel 12, Charleston WCHS Fox, and an unmarked one) and saw at least 5 people who seemed to be reporters taking notes on pads.

    I asked Mr. Patrick about expected crowd size, and his pre-event estimate was amazingly accurate, so he knew how to adjust for schedules and such. I concur that in this context it was a great way to get media notice as to student concern to augment the faculty’s, and much better than twice as many people but no media.

    The event started at I believe 1:11, which would be itself understandable if it had been from the necessity to carry equipment about 500′ and other reasons — but the actual reason was to provide the courtesy of waiting a few minutes to let the Charleston TV people get there, so they didn’t miss anything while they were still driving in.

    The timing was well done, with the keynote speeches from Dr. Puce, Cindy Frich, Chad Wilcox, and others; and everyone else kept their comments brief.

    The quality was very good and very heart-felt, especially the young lady from the HSC, and all were very succinct, especially Dr. Remanschneider’s anecdote about WVU’s recent international status as a cautionary tale. All 15 or so people did a servive to WVU.

    In contrast to some others above, I highly respect past-Delegate Frich’s service to the state in her two terms in the State House, and I know her to be very intelligent and hard-working and focused. AND she showed up yesterday at some unquantifiable political risk, unlike Delegates Fleischauer, Beach, Marshall, and Shook, who seem unwilling to step forward in defense of WVU’s good name. At long last, have they nothing to say?

  121. bobolink Says:

    Nicely said, Andrew.

  122. Karen Says:

    Andrew, thank you. Your earlier post on this blog was so well done that I took the liberty of copying it to a close friend who is a minister in Pittsburgh and a WVU grad.

  123. kittenish Says:

    That photo is freaking me out! He really does look like the devil there!

  124. Snarky Says:

    Don’t stare at that picture too long Kitten, you could turn to stone.

  125. Lurking In The Grass Says:

    What was the political risk to Frich? I am just asking?

  126. Hippie Killer Says:

    Sigh.

    Cindy Frich is the least respected, and most widely despised recent member of the legislature. And I’m including the ones who are, or who have been to prison.

    The only people who ever defend her — the ones who send me angry emails every time I dare mention her name, and demand that I hand over IP addresses of people who leave negative comments about her — are her handful of personal friends, who are to no one’s surprise, just as batshit crazy as she is.

    Other than that, EVERYONE hates Cindy Frich. There’s simply no better way bring illegitimacy to whatever you’re doing than allowing her to tag along.

    I’m sorry if that hurts anyone’s feelings, but it’s the truth.

  127. Lurking In The Grass Says:

    Yea, HK. That’s always been my impression of her and supporters. I remember she had a caricature of herself for some political literature. I thought it bore a remarkable resemblance.

    But I am still curious what the poster meant by “unquantifiable political risk” ?

    She is afraid of retribution from MG? Or the 1800? Surely she isn’t concerned about the faculty? I just thought it was a curious statement.

    Inquiring minds want to know…

  128. poliscigeek Says:

    WVU Alumni 2008 – no need to insult Pitt either. Last I checked nothing like the Bresch scandal has happened there, and under Nordenberg, likely would not. Notwithstanding, you are a fine product of WVU – I wish you all the best as you pursue your career.

    The parallels between the BoG and Mylan are amazing to the onlooker and interested parties – both stand behind the lead actors, Garrison and Bresch, and ascribe no responsibility to either of them for what has happened. What are we missing that they can take such a stance?

  129. Dorothy Parker Says:

    I’m with Hippie on the Cindy issue. Also, the same is true for Jesse Johnson (a great guy to party with but, as Gov?) AND Charlotte Pritt, my friends. Somewhere along the line she lost her marbles. Actually, I think Underwood was a relief. As a new age yoga channeller guru, Charlotte is fine. Governor, no. Not taken seriously anymore. No chance either Jesse or Charlotte is going to trump Joe in this or any forseeable lifetime (a nod to Charlotte here).

  130. WVU Alumni 2008 Says:

    Polisci: It was merely a joke. Not being serious, as far as I am concerned, in terms of academic integrity in the university administration–ANY university has us beat. That includes the online schools where you pay $50 and get the diploma sent to you in the mail. I mean, Heather did not even have to pay $50.

  131. poliscigeek Says:

    WVU Alum 2008: point taken. Speaking of online degrees please note that each time the PPG has a story on the Bresch matter in its online edition, there are several advertisements for obtaing an MBA or other degrees online – coincidence?

  132. WVU Alumni 2008 Says:

    I think that is irony in the extreme.

  133. poliscigeek Says:

    no doubt – I find it both humorous and dubious.

  134. Don Says:

    Test

  135. incredible Says:

    We shouldn’t dump all of WVU. There are truly fine people who have dedicated their lives to teaching, research, patient care and service. The problem we now face is not lack of integrity at the University’s interface with its students, etc. The faculty ahve shown that they have the courage to step forward and be heard. We should take great pride in that.
    We need to forge ahead. Garrison must resign. The BOG must be redesigned and become a self perpetuating board-not one beholding to any political figure. There must be faculty representation and student representation on that board. The Governor can even have one appointment-no more.
    Until this happens-the University will never be free of intrusion from the politicos.

  136. Just a tip... Says:

    There is a man by the name of C. Smith from Jane Lew that owns quite a bit of property in WV. Governor Manchin visited with him once a few years ago to look at some property that borders I79 for a state facility of some sort. I cannot be specific about the asking price of this property, however the man states that the Governor offered him an even larger amount of money that would give Mr. Smith more than he wanted, plus give Joe a healthy $1,000,000 kick-back. The right reporter needs to look into this before election time. Please help!

  137. Sickened by WV Politics Says:

    Why doesn’t this surprise any of us?? How can democrats continue to vote this man in office?

  138. The Grumpy Republican » Senator Manchin…Bet on it!! Says:

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  139. Jennifer M. Cato Says:

    You aren’t the only one Blogging about Joe ‘Boss Hogg’ Manchin’s corruption.
    I’ve been hammering that crook on my Grumpy Republican Blog at Tuxwerx lately too.
    I even created some original artwork about Boss Hogg Manchin that I’m told he just ‘loves’…
    Enjoy and keep up the fight against this crook Manchin!!
    I’m waging a similar war on my Blog too!
    Together we can bring these crooks down and to Justice!!

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